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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Urriak Uruk" data-source="post: 8421491" data-attributes="member: 7015558">We live in the modern world (and we always have, modern is the present). Any setting being updated will always be reflecting some modern sensibilities, otherwise it will not succeed.No one decides for me what is sensible. If a new Batman movie gets made where he thinks killing is ok, I think it's bad and don't watch the sequels. Enough people do that, the movies don't make money and the studio who owns Batman puts the brand on hiatus and returns to the drawing board to devise new ideas that are commercially successful.The people who own D&D (WotC) decide what gets put out to the market, but we the consumers decide whether or not that successful. If enough consumers like it, they keep going down that path. If enough don't, they start over. If you're part of the minority that disagrees with the direction the commercially successful property is taking... well sorry, that's life in a capitalist society.I'm surprised you didn't already know this, but WotC can't force you what to read/watch/write. You can still look at all media and pick and choose what you enjoy. A company making media you don't personally like, but that is successful because others do like it... that still doesn't force you personally to do anything.I dunno, why do we get a new Pokemon game every few years when the first where probably some of the best, and the new ones are mostly derivative? Because they make money... and they make money because people buy them, and people buy them because they want them. And those games are going to release with a more diverse set of characters because the consumers themselves are more diverse, and more vocal about how diversity matters to them.Again, this is how capitalism works.Updating a new version of a property doesn't "ruin" the original. I mentioned Batman before... I don't like Batman v. Superman. I think it's an awful movie. Does it make the Dark Knight worse? Does it make Burton's Batman worse? Adam West's Batman less funny? No. That doesn't make any sense at all.If Greyhawk gets released in 5e (and it already sort of has in Ghosts of Saltmarsh) it will have no impact on the original material published in previous editions. You can still pick them up and play them as you always have, WotC isn't going to kick down your door and make you play "Official 5E Grewhawk."To conclude... I'm sorry you don't personally like the directly 5E has taken settings like Ravenloft. But the fact is, the rebooted Ravenloft has appeared commercially successful and well-reviewed, so the direction they took is one the 5E audience seems to like, and one the D&D team will probably continue with other settings. If it didn't, the company would be behaving illogically.If 5E Greyhawk gets released and no one likes it... congrats, you were right! But there's no guarantee that it will automatically be a failure. I think it probably would be pretty good, with a nice mix of nostalgia to OSR gaming with some tweaks here and there where appropriate. I don't believe Old-School gaming is incompatible with today's social issues (it's a goddamn game). The D&D team is made up of folks who were both raised on and have written Greyhawk material, and if they're releasing it for 5E, want to do it justice.Rant over. Maybe we can both take some deep breaths and turn down the hyperbole?</blockquote>

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