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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 8421829" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>Who am I insulting, Umbran? No actual specific person, and not even WotC as a whole for a hypothetical that might never happen. If I am insulting anything, it is the media culture of endless remakes (and "insulting" is not the right word, really; critiquing or <em>maybe </em>criticizing).</p><p></p><p>And yes, I realize that everything changes. But I'm not sure that really applies to this. We're not talking about musical tastes or cultural views or a person's preference in ice cream flavors, or even Buddhist impermanence. We're talking about a fantasy world that, by its nature, is outside of time, that is an archetype that can, yes, manifest in different times and places, and embody different flavors. Certainly, many versions of Greyhawk can and do exist - as many as DMs who have run it. I'm not against people making it their own, or even WotC remaking it, or any other setting.</p><p></p><p>But just because they can, doesn't mean they should. A director could remake <em>Casablanca, </em>but should they? Is there anything wrong with preserving <em>Casablanca </em>as a striking representation of film and culture of the early 1940s? I am not suggesting that Greyhawk is the D&D equivalent of <em>Casablanca, </em>by the way. But I am suggesting that, just as--in my opinion--<em>Casablanca </em>is left alone, as a singular film from 1942, so too might it be for the best if Greyhawk is preserved as a world that represents the look and feel of D&D in 1980 (plus or minus a few years).</p><p></p><p>I have often argued in past editions--in 4E era, for instance--that I'd prefer WotC to create new settings than rehash old ones. That was mainly because of personal preferences: I love setting books and, if given the choice, I generally prefer something new to an updated version of something old.</p><p></p><p>Thankfully, with 5E, we don't have to choose. They're going a bit "setting happy," which pleases me greatly. And I like their mixture of classic, Magic, and new. I don't like everything they churn out, nor do I feel entitled to. But with anywhere from 3-6 settings planned for the next two years, there's a lot to choose from (by my count: 3 classics, 0-1 Magic, 0-2 new).</p><p></p><p>And don't get me wrong, I'm not a Greyhawk fanatic or purist. Don't tell anyone around here, but I almost prefer the Realms (at least the Greenwood and FRCS version). In other words, I'm not speaking from a "from my cold, dead hands" perspective. I'm not saying, "Leave Greyhawk alone or I'll summon Emirikol to zap you!" I'm just considering creative direction, possibilities, and even a touch of ethics. </p><p></p><p>I've also spoken several times about how I think they should do Greyhawk, a deluxe box set that I first suggested a few years back. I'm not opposed to it at all. But I do think that if they do it, they should hew closer to the original vision than other settings, because of what Greyhawk represents: the feel of early D&D in its first decade. "Gygaxia." I would hate to see WotC Mercerize it or colonize it with more recent tropes that would be incongruous with the original vibe. I mean, maybe the Suel Imperium were dragonborn, and the valley elves are morphed into aevendrow...I mean, if they go that route, fine, that's their prerogative. It would be a shame, though. IMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 8421829, member: 59082"] Who am I insulting, Umbran? No actual specific person, and not even WotC as a whole for a hypothetical that might never happen. If I am insulting anything, it is the media culture of endless remakes (and "insulting" is not the right word, really; critiquing or [I]maybe [/I]criticizing). And yes, I realize that everything changes. But I'm not sure that really applies to this. We're not talking about musical tastes or cultural views or a person's preference in ice cream flavors, or even Buddhist impermanence. We're talking about a fantasy world that, by its nature, is outside of time, that is an archetype that can, yes, manifest in different times and places, and embody different flavors. Certainly, many versions of Greyhawk can and do exist - as many as DMs who have run it. I'm not against people making it their own, or even WotC remaking it, or any other setting. But just because they can, doesn't mean they should. A director could remake [I]Casablanca, [/I]but should they? Is there anything wrong with preserving [I]Casablanca [/I]as a striking representation of film and culture of the early 1940s? I am not suggesting that Greyhawk is the D&D equivalent of [I]Casablanca, [/I]by the way. But I am suggesting that, just as--in my opinion--[I]Casablanca [/I]is left alone, as a singular film from 1942, so too might it be for the best if Greyhawk is preserved as a world that represents the look and feel of D&D in 1980 (plus or minus a few years). I have often argued in past editions--in 4E era, for instance--that I'd prefer WotC to create new settings than rehash old ones. That was mainly because of personal preferences: I love setting books and, if given the choice, I generally prefer something new to an updated version of something old. Thankfully, with 5E, we don't have to choose. They're going a bit "setting happy," which pleases me greatly. And I like their mixture of classic, Magic, and new. I don't like everything they churn out, nor do I feel entitled to. But with anywhere from 3-6 settings planned for the next two years, there's a lot to choose from (by my count: 3 classics, 0-1 Magic, 0-2 new). And don't get me wrong, I'm not a Greyhawk fanatic or purist. Don't tell anyone around here, but I almost prefer the Realms (at least the Greenwood and FRCS version). In other words, I'm not speaking from a "from my cold, dead hands" perspective. I'm not saying, "Leave Greyhawk alone or I'll summon Emirikol to zap you!" I'm just considering creative direction, possibilities, and even a touch of ethics. I've also spoken several times about how I think they should do Greyhawk, a deluxe box set that I first suggested a few years back. I'm not opposed to it at all. But I do think that if they do it, they should hew closer to the original vision than other settings, because of what Greyhawk represents: the feel of early D&D in its first decade. "Gygaxia." I would hate to see WotC Mercerize it or colonize it with more recent tropes that would be incongruous with the original vibe. I mean, maybe the Suel Imperium were dragonborn, and the valley elves are morphed into aevendrow...I mean, if they go that route, fine, that's their prerogative. It would be a shame, though. IMO. [/QUOTE]
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