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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8427452" data-attributes="member: 22779">Again, you're trying to justify events in the fiction using the Thermian Argument.&nbsp; Here's the link for a very good watch:[MEDIA=youtube]AxV8gAGmbtk[/MEDIA]Basically, at it's heart, you're saying that no matter how egregious the text is, how racist, bigoted, misogynistic, whatever, doesn't matter so long as you can justify it in universe.&nbsp; The problem is, those gods DON'T EXIST.&nbsp; They are just fictional constructs of the author.&nbsp; The AUTHOR is the one writing these dehumanizing things.&nbsp; Now, do we accept that our fiction is racist, bigotted, hateful, or do we step up and say, &quot;No!&quot;&nbsp; There is no actual justification for glorifying mental illness.&nbsp; There just isn't.&nbsp; So, yes, you can have kender who are mentally ill.&nbsp; That's fine.&nbsp; But, you can't, or at least shouldn't anyway, write them in such a way that this mental illness is a good thing.&nbsp; Oh, it's just because a random magical effect (note, Kender in universe were NOT created by a god, but rather by the accidental release of Chaos by the Greygem of Gargath - they are the gnomish victims of radiation exposure who have been horribly mutated to the point where they aren't even gnomes anymore) so, it's okay?&nbsp; No.&nbsp; It really, really isn't.Either write kender so that their curse is an actual affliction, or don't write it at all.&nbsp; Celebrating mental illness and pretending that mental illness is a good thing is just not acceptable anymore.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8427452, member: 22779"] Again, you're trying to justify events in the fiction using the Thermian Argument. Here's the link for a very good watch: [MEDIA=youtube]AxV8gAGmbtk[/MEDIA] Basically, at it's heart, you're saying that no matter how egregious the text is, how racist, bigoted, misogynistic, whatever, doesn't matter so long as you can justify it in universe. The problem is, those gods DON'T EXIST. They are just fictional constructs of the author. The AUTHOR is the one writing these dehumanizing things. Now, do we accept that our fiction is racist, bigotted, hateful, or do we step up and say, "No!" There is no actual justification for glorifying mental illness. There just isn't. So, yes, you can have kender who are mentally ill. That's fine. But, you can't, or at least shouldn't anyway, write them in such a way that this mental illness is a good thing. Oh, it's just because a random magical effect (note, Kender in universe were NOT created by a god, but rather by the accidental release of Chaos by the Greygem of Gargath - they are the gnomish victims of radiation exposure who have been horribly mutated to the point where they aren't even gnomes anymore) so, it's okay? No. It really, really isn't. Either write kender so that their curse is an actual affliction, or don't write it at all. Celebrating mental illness and pretending that mental illness is a good thing is just not acceptable anymore. [/QUOTE]

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