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<blockquote data-quote="Jfdlsjfd" data-source="post: 8456997" data-attributes="member: 42856">It may depends on which book. I think we all agree that PCs are exceptional, but at what stage of their development are they?You already have them able to break out of the mold, others would say they are first and foremost orcs at this stage. Sparrowhawk is first and foremost a herder who nearly died casting a fog spell. Of course he will be the greatest wizard of Gont, but at this point he's nothing special... He could have been killed by the shadow he summoned: first a teenager boy (WIS -10 whenever a girl is present), and a starting wizard 1. Of course, if he had been killed, there would be no novel. But acting with this knowledge may remove the sense of accomplishment of the players. &quot;Of course we survived, we were the hero of the story&quot; instead of &quot;Thank god we survived so we could be heroes of the story&quot;. At level one, most classes don't even have their subclass archetype and could be seen as still in &quot;internship&quot;. They are still more nature than nurture and personnal effort. This is just a matter of preference on how one saw the PC backstory. Already heroic or ratcatcher material?If aplayer really wanted to play a scrawny orc, I'd approve thos backstory. &quot;Sure you have 8 STR instead of 10 if you want, but why exactly would this backstory warrant having a +2 elsewhere? Cursed to be scrawny doesn't mean you suddenly get more intelligent.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jfdlsjfd, post: 8456997, member: 42856"] It may depends on which book. I think we all agree that PCs are exceptional, but at what stage of their development are they? You already have them able to break out of the mold, others would say they are first and foremost orcs at this stage. Sparrowhawk is first and foremost a herder who nearly died casting a fog spell. Of course he will be the greatest wizard of Gont, but at this point he's nothing special... He could have been killed by the shadow he summoned: first a teenager boy (WIS -10 whenever a girl is present), and a starting wizard 1. Of course, if he had been killed, there would be no novel. But acting with this knowledge may remove the sense of accomplishment of the players. "Of course we survived, we were the hero of the story" instead of "Thank god we survived so we could be heroes of the story". At level one, most classes don't even have their subclass archetype and could be seen as still in "internship". They are still more nature than nurture and personnal effort. This is just a matter of preference on how one saw the PC backstory. Already heroic or ratcatcher material? If aplayer really wanted to play a scrawny orc, I'd approve thos backstory. "Sure you have 8 STR instead of 10 if you want, but why exactly would this backstory warrant having a +2 elsewhere? Cursed to be scrawny doesn't mean you suddenly get more intelligent." [/QUOTE]

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