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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8457915" data-attributes="member: 63508">I have to get home to see my DMG book. However 14 DEX and WIS gets you AC 14 and it doesn't go up until you take level ASI.And it can't use magic armor nor shields.So monsters' to hit increase while a Monk's AC doesn't increase. This is with the monk being very melee focused but only having a d8 HD. So it wants high CON as well.The naked barbarians has the same problem except it can use shields. However it's naked AC is based on a secondary and tertiary score so the shield bonus is cancelled out.From my experience with 5e, monks and barbarians are the biggest yoyo clases.We take shots when our groups monk drops to 0. At least 2 a session. And he's not even the tank. He just has the lowest AC and second lowest HP.</blockquote>