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<blockquote data-quote="Woas" data-source="post: 4230940" data-attributes="member: 16317"><p>Yes, I play/ed the game. Current game is on hold and not sure it'll come back which I'll explain.</p><p></p><p>I think BW is a great read. It's like a <em>Moby Dick</em> or a <em>The Great Gatsby</em> of RPG text. It's just a good read for GM advice in general. But playing the game is a different story. Don't get me wrong the core mechanics are sound. Roll some d6s, 4,5, and 6s are successes. Meet or beat a determined difficulty number with successes and you pass the test. It's all those extra rules... Test of Wills, Fight! and IMO lots and lots of 'corner case' rules really bog a potentially great game down.</p><p></p><p>Scripting can and will be a headache. To be honest I don't know how people do it. Over on the BW message boards if you go back and try to scrape some gameplay tips/advice like I did it might seem like BW and the scripting method is really easy-peasy. But I realized most of those answers and pieces of advice are from the creator(s) of the game and they know it inside and out.</p><p></p><p>By the sound of it, you an I are in the same boat. The group I game with are very 'casual gamers'. It would not be a problem if next week instead of playing a RPG we played Smash Bros., Settlers of Catan or just go to a bar. Is BW a "game for gamers?" I can't really say. What is a "gamer"? What I can say is BW takes a lot of effort. If the players aren't ready to put in the effort a GM typically does into a game 1:1, then it's probably not a game for them.</p><p></p><p>And thats why that BW game I was part of is on hold. My group of gamers at least are not looking for such a commitment when it comes to a game. We play Savage Worlds instead. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Woas, post: 4230940, member: 16317"] Yes, I play/ed the game. Current game is on hold and not sure it'll come back which I'll explain. I think BW is a great read. It's like a [I]Moby Dick[/I] or a [I]The Great Gatsby[/I] of RPG text. It's just a good read for GM advice in general. But playing the game is a different story. Don't get me wrong the core mechanics are sound. Roll some d6s, 4,5, and 6s are successes. Meet or beat a determined difficulty number with successes and you pass the test. It's all those extra rules... Test of Wills, Fight! and IMO lots and lots of 'corner case' rules really bog a potentially great game down. Scripting can and will be a headache. To be honest I don't know how people do it. Over on the BW message boards if you go back and try to scrape some gameplay tips/advice like I did it might seem like BW and the scripting method is really easy-peasy. But I realized most of those answers and pieces of advice are from the creator(s) of the game and they know it inside and out. By the sound of it, you an I are in the same boat. The group I game with are very 'casual gamers'. It would not be a problem if next week instead of playing a RPG we played Smash Bros., Settlers of Catan or just go to a bar. Is BW a "game for gamers?" I can't really say. What is a "gamer"? What I can say is BW takes a lot of effort. If the players aren't ready to put in the effort a GM typically does into a game 1:1, then it's probably not a game for them. And thats why that BW game I was part of is on hold. My group of gamers at least are not looking for such a commitment when it comes to a game. We play Savage Worlds instead. ;) [/QUOTE]
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