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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheSword" data-source="post: 9453593" data-attributes="member: 6879661">Okay, so I have a suggestion. Hear me out.Firstly, accept what they’re telling you at face value. You obviously want to game with these folks and so it’s about making that as painless and dare I say enjoyable for you as possible. You can’t change a persons nature. You cant force someone to take fun seriously if they don’t want to.The kind of things they seem to like (not-not like) sound a lot like early 3e / Pathfinder Paizo adventures.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Combat heavy</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Low on roleplay</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Powerful characters</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Not railroads but pretty clear paths forward</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Medium dungeon based.</li> </ul>Though 5e is an improvement on Pathfinder 1 in pretty much every way.So convert something like Rise of the Runelords or Shackled City to 5e or the system of your preference. They get to kick ass and feel powerful. You get to enjoy a classic Adventure Path. I think Curse of the Crimson Throne might be too political and investigative. Kingmaker a bit too much politics. Of the two I recommended I think Shackled City would go down the best from everything you’ve said about them.Bonus points for trying the new PHB so you can use it to see how they and you find the new rules.</blockquote>