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<blockquote data-quote="Retreater" data-source="post: 9453606" data-attributes="member: 42040">I'm seeing a lot of great ideas. I'll try to comment on everything I've considered.I have built some good community with folks online, here and elsewhere. I have a weekly online group that does get along pretty well. Also a Discord community that I'd love to try to game with. I just don't have time, because I'm feel obligated to keep running for this one group (because of my wife, neighbor, and honestly the one player I connect with).OSR stuff in general typically gets shot down because the power-gamers feel too &quot;puny.&quot;Yeah. And the two tactical players have already said they'd like to do PF2. It's just that we have a smaller group than PF2 handles. And it's a little crunchy for my current brain state.I'm a massive Heroquest fan. That was my intro to RPGs (not the Red Box). I have all the expansions, nicely painted and ready to go. I also have other dungeon crawlers such as Massive Darkness, Descent, Gloomhaven Jaws of the Lion, and Dungeon Universalis. They have shot down these ideas.Has to be on squares or hexes. Haha. I've tried to find something that would work for us. Warhammer Underworlds was an idea, but it didn't catch on.Nah, they like getting new magic items and cool new powers. They just don't want to put the effort in selecting them or learning how they work. So I have to coach them on everything, print out the characters at each level up, etc. It was a very GM-heavy workload for me.And ultimately, I have two players who &quot;like&quot; that style of play, one who likes storydriven exploration and roleplaying, and then me - and I'm kinda done with the crunch.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Retreater, post: 9453606, member: 42040"] I'm seeing a lot of great ideas. I'll try to comment on everything I've considered. I have built some good community with folks online, here and elsewhere. I have a weekly online group that does get along pretty well. Also a Discord community that I'd love to try to game with. I just don't have time, because I'm feel obligated to keep running for this one group (because of my wife, neighbor, and honestly the one player I connect with). OSR stuff in general typically gets shot down because the power-gamers feel too "puny." Yeah. And the two tactical players have already said they'd like to do PF2. It's just that we have a smaller group than PF2 handles. And it's a little crunchy for my current brain state. I'm a massive Heroquest fan. That was my intro to RPGs (not the Red Box). I have all the expansions, nicely painted and ready to go. I also have other dungeon crawlers such as Massive Darkness, Descent, Gloomhaven Jaws of the Lion, and Dungeon Universalis. They have shot down these ideas. Has to be on squares or hexes. Haha. I've tried to find something that would work for us. Warhammer Underworlds was an idea, but it didn't catch on. Nah, they like getting new magic items and cool new powers. They just don't want to put the effort in selecting them or learning how they work. So I have to coach them on everything, print out the characters at each level up, etc. It was a very GM-heavy workload for me. And ultimately, I have two players who "like" that style of play, one who likes storydriven exploration and roleplaying, and then me - and I'm kinda done with the crunch. [/QUOTE]

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