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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bayushi_seikuro" data-source="post: 9453660" data-attributes="member: 7024851">I'm only on page 3 of the discussion, but it doesn't sound like a cohesive group.  And that's not on you.You're doing the best you can to provide for them, as well as have enjoyment yourself.  Having your wife not enjoy the game is also a different issue - as you said, you want to prioritize having 'together' time.It doesn't sound like they enjoyed any of the other games you mentioned.  Being adults, especially if you're staring at spreadsheets all day, you really don't want to have inventory management be so heavy; I feel like that was an issue with Vanilla WoW - being in raids was literally a second unpaid job, due to the character prep.I'd have thought 4e would be alright because every does have a chart of what they can do.  Some people like that, some people don't.Maybe they don't want campaigns and heavy story.  Maybe they want Conan type adventures where you make all this gold, come to town, waste it and 'crap, we're broke again... guess it's back to the dungeon.'</blockquote>