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<blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 3995091" data-attributes="member: 11697">My group has four campaigns going at the moment: my 3e Planescape game, a 3e Netheril era FR game, a Shadowrun (3rd) game, and a Mage (3rd) game.The DM for the FR game has no interest in 4th, and none of us as players have any interest in switching either.For my own campaign, I'm grossly underwhelmed by what I've seen of 4th, and my players are on average harder on WotC than I am. More than half of us including myself got into D&amp;D with 3e, and it's looking like 4e is going to be driving us away (and that's a scary trend I've noticed with some other local groups with regards to folks who started with 3e). Additionally, the term &quot;commercial failure&quot; has been tossed about w/ regards to the DI, and they're all computer programmers and a former WizO, so my hope for that thing is running pretty low at this point.On the upside, White Wolf and Catalyst are getting -alot- more attention from me. My next campaign likely won't be D&amp;D.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shemeska, post: 3995091, member: 11697"] My group has four campaigns going at the moment: my 3e Planescape game, a 3e Netheril era FR game, a Shadowrun (3rd) game, and a Mage (3rd) game. The DM for the FR game has no interest in 4th, and none of us as players have any interest in switching either. For my own campaign, I'm grossly underwhelmed by what I've seen of 4th, and my players are on average harder on WotC than I am. More than half of us including myself got into D&D with 3e, and it's looking like 4e is going to be driving us away (and that's a scary trend I've noticed with some other local groups with regards to folks who started with 3e). Additionally, the term "commercial failure" has been tossed about w/ regards to the DI, and they're all computer programmers and a former WizO, so my hope for that thing is running pretty low at this point. On the upside, White Wolf and Catalyst are getting -alot- more attention from me. My next campaign likely won't be D&D. [/QUOTE]

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