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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Summer-Knight925" data-source="post: 6053483" data-attributes="member: 80297">The elf, and why they make great rogues.Weapon training: Forget being stuck with a short sword or a shot bow, d6s are for little folk and improperly trained nut jobs running around in the dark. Low-light vision: While darkvision is far superior, you can see twice as far as that lame human cleric in the party, and let's face it, you need to see farther.Boost on perception: Your job in the party is to find traps, secret doors, and all the other hidden stuff, mostly so you can steal it for yourself when no one is looking, but nevertheless, it helps.Ability scores: -2 to con does suck, but this reinforces the archer concept, keeping you out of harms way, take point black at 1st level (obviously) and then the first rogue trick should the combat feat, take precise shot, badda-bing, you're in business. +2 dex, this is awesome, let's face it, you'll be a better shot (more archer points), you can disable device better (its dex) not to mention most of your skills are also dex related, you get a bump in the reflex department (this is endlessly useful) and lets not forget that armor class increase, or the higher dex for armor, which then has less of an armor check penalty, which means better for using your skills.+2 intelligence: this is what actually sealed the deal here. With a +2 to int, you get more skills, which for a rogue means more awesomeness to save the party in almost every hallway, assuming your DM is like mine and thinks traps are like candy on halloween. HOWEVER, only the archer build is really worth your while for an elf rogue. I'm not saying you should only play elf rogues, BUT for certain characters, it's worth it.If you wanted a sneaky rogue, go halfling.If you wanted a melee rogue, go human (or half-orc)if anything, the only real downside to an elf rogue is the -2 to con, as this means a lower fortitude save, which means poisons, disease, and our favorite save or die spells, are that much more effective against you.But you're an elven rogue, what are you doing getting attacked by giant spiders?You cray Mr. Elf Rogue, you cray. The only other thing I'd play an elf at would be a ray spell focused wizard, or a sniper wizard.And that's just metagame.I'm actually about to do an Elven Druid (advanced race guide variant plant druid) and use a bow, mostly because our party needs an archer, but also because this build is really exciting for me.I use to HATE elves, and hated playing them, mostly because I felt that got a lot of limelight they didn't deserve. But then Pathfinder came out and made me feel alright about it.They're important and all.But not more than my favorite dwarves (who also can make good rogues if you're doing a melee rogue build or a total dungeon delver, as the dark vision makes you A PIMP when scouting, just choose a weapon (greataxe?) and stick with it.</blockquote>

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