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<blockquote data-quote="Empirate" data-source="post: 6055111" data-attributes="member: 78958"><p>d6s are your reason to play a Rogue. They're what sneak attack is about. That single point of damage on a longbow or longsword really doesn't make a difference if every attack you land also does a bunch of d6s extra. IF you can reliably get sneak attack damage, which I find hard to do with a ranged build.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>These I'll give you, but it's a very minor skill boost, and the low-light vision thing is easily amended with a magic item. I'd still rather have no Con penalty, thank you very much.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>+2 Dex can be had by Humans, too, although you don't have to take it. But for an archer Rogue (if you're dead set on playing one), it's an obvious choice.</p><p></p><p>If you want Int for skillpoints, guess what, Humans get those, and in an amount exactly equal to a +2 Int increase.</p><p></p><p>-2 Con is horrible for an already fragile warrior type, and don't go on advertising that this "reinforces the concept". Less HP is just (capitalized) Bad, and a lower Fort save is Bad as well, since it's going to be low anyway.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, and Humans gain a bonus feat! Guess which combat style is the most feat intensive? Archery? Right on the first guess! Now you can have Precise Shot at 1st level and not suck for two whole levels whenever an ally is in melee with the enemy (which you, as an archer, should definitely hope for to be the case!).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Empirate, post: 6055111, member: 78958"] d6s are your reason to play a Rogue. They're what sneak attack is about. That single point of damage on a longbow or longsword really doesn't make a difference if every attack you land also does a bunch of d6s extra. IF you can reliably get sneak attack damage, which I find hard to do with a ranged build. These I'll give you, but it's a very minor skill boost, and the low-light vision thing is easily amended with a magic item. I'd still rather have no Con penalty, thank you very much. +2 Dex can be had by Humans, too, although you don't have to take it. But for an archer Rogue (if you're dead set on playing one), it's an obvious choice. If you want Int for skillpoints, guess what, Humans get those, and in an amount exactly equal to a +2 Int increase. -2 Con is horrible for an already fragile warrior type, and don't go on advertising that this "reinforces the concept". Less HP is just (capitalized) Bad, and a lower Fort save is Bad as well, since it's going to be low anyway. Oh, and Humans gain a bonus feat! Guess which combat style is the most feat intensive? Archery? Right on the first guess! Now you can have Precise Shot at 1st level and not suck for two whole levels whenever an ally is in melee with the enemy (which you, as an archer, should definitely hope for to be the case!). [/QUOTE]
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