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Message: <blockquote data-quote="samursus" data-source="post: 5482439" data-attributes="member: 64280">For a good representation of 4e magic in fiction check out the IDW D&D comics... this is also how I prefer it.Being heavily into fantasy lit for around 30 years I have read and enjoyed many of the authors and series you have all mentioned.  Despite the fact that the literature almost always portrays magic/magic users as more powerful than non, you must remember that D&D is a co-operative experience.  Magic is generally portrayed in lit as all-powerful for 2 reasons. Either to make the protagonist special (Riftwar, Earthsea, Recluce, Thomas Covenant) or provide an epic foil for the protagonist(s) to overcome (LotR, Black Company).In the first instance, to provide the "fantasy protagonist" experience, everyone would need to be magic-users.  In the second, no one should be (or if they are, balanced in power with the rest of the group).Reading fantasy literature is a solo experience.  Its passive and can't truly be shared.  Every person reads a book through their own personal filters... and the plots and such are constructed in such a way as to project the reader into the role of the protagonist (generally).D&D is a (generally) cooperative game.  Even with intense RP and a Storytelling/Narrative component, it is still a cooperative process.I understand some groups say they  like the imbalance, but I suspect, deep down, everyone would like to feel equally as useful to the group.  And thats why I prefer a magic=martial=whatever.  If I wanted to play a magic is all powerful genre, I would either have all PC's be magic, or none of them.Just my opinion and YMMV etc.</blockquote>

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