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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5486447" data-attributes="member: 19675">You mean like my buddy who went into Special Forces training able to take everyone but the instructor, whom he gave a workout?  (A few months.)Or do you mean like another buddy who got drummed out of the Marines for being an uncontrollable psycho?  (Ditto.)Or like some of my friends & family who are career military and can barely shoot straight?  (Never.)If you're a city slicker like me, a few years if scouting.  If you live in a tribal society, probably by age 8. Depends on the student.  A talented, driven student may pass his tests in months, with any time after that being a formality.  A lazy student, or one who barely has any talent at all may take years.Look at Marvel's Dr. Strange- he learned in months what the Ancient One had been teaching to another pupil for some time...Or look at me with calculus.  I suck at it, even after taking it in HS and college.  OTOH, one of my classmates had taught himself calculus by his sophomore year. Certainly- there is opportunity.  Just because you have all of MJ's physical gifts doesn't mean you'll get to use them playing B-ball.  Perhaps you never leave the provincial farm you grew up on and nobody- not even you- suspect you could be leading your country to Olympic Medal contention.Then there is desire- maybe you don't like B-ball at all, and fishing is your sport if choice.Nutrition, health, culture, opportunity, drive, luck- all play their role.I'm an entertainment attorney.  I get to see all kinds of talented people trying to make it, some as good or better than artists making millions.  One, having pulled strings to get a Sony exec to see his show at a Dallas nightclub is still unsigned.  Not because he sucked- he definitely had talent and a good stage show- but because the night before his show, someone robbed the club of all it's equipment.  No lights, no mics, no PA...no show.  The Sony exec left within minutes and never granted my client another shot.</blockquote>

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