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How is the Wizard vs Warrior Balance Problem Handled in Fantasy Literature?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ultimatecalibur" data-source="post: 5493624" data-attributes="member: 59539"><p>First I'm going to respond to the threads original topic:</p><p></p><p>The "Fighter/Mage-User Same Team Power Disparity at High Skill Levels" is largely a modern western concept born from D&D itself.</p><p></p><p>In Arthurian Legend, Merlin was roughly on par with the various major knights. His only magical powers were prophecy, casting protective enchantments and dispelling curses. Several of the major knights had such knightly purity that they could not be cursed and had such skill at arms that they had no need of protective charms. Merlin could not destroy towns on a whim.</p><p></p><p>In Wuxia, if there was a sorcerer capable of easily leveling towns on the heroes side, the warriors were one man armies capable of balancing on a leaf floating in the middle of a lake during a monsoon.</p><p></p><p>In the Anime Slayers, Lina and Gourry had roughly the same level of skill in there respective classes. When facing a band of a dozen brigands Lina would cast a spell or Gourry would defeat them with a show of swordsmanship to the same result. As for the dragon slaying spell Dragon Slave that Lina found while treasure hunting? Gourry had the Sword of Light, a weapon that could critically injure Demon Gods.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now on to Batman:</p><p></p><p>Batman's power level varies depending on whose writing him, where he's appearing and who he is facing.</p><p></p><p>In the Dark Knight films he is a physically fit, well trained human with access to experimental military grade equipment. He faces street thugs, mobsters, non-superhuman ninja and madmen.</p><p></p><p>In the JLA comic books he is an impossibly wealthy(in an emergency and need of a spaceship? Got one prepped and ready to launch) 5+dan blackbelt in a dozen martial arts, master detective, with the equivalent knowledge of someone with a master's degree in chemistry, physics, biology, psychology and medicine. He faces evil gods, advanced alien invasion fleets, and businessmen able to cause total global economic collapse.</p><p></p><p>When it <em>requires</em> a martial artist who can kill superhumans unarmed(Lady Shiva) or a super soldier (Deathstroke) in order to beat you in a fight <em>you are superhuman</em> even if you are a "normal" human.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ultimatecalibur, post: 5493624, member: 59539"] First I'm going to respond to the threads original topic: The "Fighter/Mage-User Same Team Power Disparity at High Skill Levels" is largely a modern western concept born from D&D itself. In Arthurian Legend, Merlin was roughly on par with the various major knights. His only magical powers were prophecy, casting protective enchantments and dispelling curses. Several of the major knights had such knightly purity that they could not be cursed and had such skill at arms that they had no need of protective charms. Merlin could not destroy towns on a whim. In Wuxia, if there was a sorcerer capable of easily leveling towns on the heroes side, the warriors were one man armies capable of balancing on a leaf floating in the middle of a lake during a monsoon. In the Anime Slayers, Lina and Gourry had roughly the same level of skill in there respective classes. When facing a band of a dozen brigands Lina would cast a spell or Gourry would defeat them with a show of swordsmanship to the same result. As for the dragon slaying spell Dragon Slave that Lina found while treasure hunting? Gourry had the Sword of Light, a weapon that could critically injure Demon Gods. Now on to Batman: Batman's power level varies depending on whose writing him, where he's appearing and who he is facing. In the Dark Knight films he is a physically fit, well trained human with access to experimental military grade equipment. He faces street thugs, mobsters, non-superhuman ninja and madmen. In the JLA comic books he is an impossibly wealthy(in an emergency and need of a spaceship? Got one prepped and ready to launch) 5+dan blackbelt in a dozen martial arts, master detective, with the equivalent knowledge of someone with a master's degree in chemistry, physics, biology, psychology and medicine. He faces evil gods, advanced alien invasion fleets, and businessmen able to cause total global economic collapse. When it [i]requires[/i] a martial artist who can kill superhumans unarmed(Lady Shiva) or a super soldier (Deathstroke) in order to beat you in a fight [i]you are superhuman[/i] even if you are a "normal" human. [/QUOTE]
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