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How is the Wizard vs Warrior Balance Problem Handled in Fantasy Literature?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5494244" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>She's exceptional in that system because she has a class. Normal humans DON'T HAVE CLASSES. How is this hard to understand. Normal humans are zero level. Even your town militia is ZERO LEVEL. In AD&D, normal humans are zero level. Normal humans don't have six stats, they only have one (Int). Normal humans can't gain levels (see the followers rules for more on that.). </p><p></p><p>Gaining a class makes you no longer a normal human in that system.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because, hard coded into the rules, a classed character (by this I mean PC classed character, not NPC class) has access to abilties that are more than a normal person can have.</p><p></p><p>No matter what, that farmboy is either a zero level commoner or a 1st level commoner. In either case, a 1st level fighter has abilities that that 1st level commoner CANNOT have by the rules. The 1st level fighter is built with a higher point buy, has enough hit points to walk away from attacks that instantly kill the farm boy, on and on and on. </p><p></p><p>Is a 1st level fighter Superman? Nope. Of course not. But, by dint of having abilities and features that a normal human cannot possibly have without first gaining that class, he's no longer just some farmer who picked up a sword.</p><p></p><p>BTW, IIRC, female humans in AD&D can have percentile strength, but, they are limited to a certain percentage (and I cannot remember that number).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5494244, member: 22779"] She's exceptional in that system because she has a class. Normal humans DON'T HAVE CLASSES. How is this hard to understand. Normal humans are zero level. Even your town militia is ZERO LEVEL. In AD&D, normal humans are zero level. Normal humans don't have six stats, they only have one (Int). Normal humans can't gain levels (see the followers rules for more on that.). Gaining a class makes you no longer a normal human in that system. Because, hard coded into the rules, a classed character (by this I mean PC classed character, not NPC class) has access to abilties that are more than a normal person can have. No matter what, that farmboy is either a zero level commoner or a 1st level commoner. In either case, a 1st level fighter has abilities that that 1st level commoner CANNOT have by the rules. The 1st level fighter is built with a higher point buy, has enough hit points to walk away from attacks that instantly kill the farm boy, on and on and on. Is a 1st level fighter Superman? Nope. Of course not. But, by dint of having abilities and features that a normal human cannot possibly have without first gaining that class, he's no longer just some farmer who picked up a sword. BTW, IIRC, female humans in AD&D can have percentile strength, but, they are limited to a certain percentage (and I cannot remember that number). [/QUOTE]
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