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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5494472" data-attributes="member: 18280">Agreed.  "Normal" is definitely the shifting sand in this discussion.But, for the sake of argument, saying that an Epic character isn't a "normal" human =/= that the character could not have begun that journey as a farmer just off the turnip truck.For the "Batman is not a normal human" argument to disprove DA's main thesis, you would have to demonstrate that Bruce Wayne wasn't "normal" the night his parents got shot.  I.e., at the start of his adventuring career.Focusing on what Michael Jordan is now in no way suggests that Michael Jordan was a basketball star when he first touched a ball.  The end product is not where a person (or character) begins.RC</blockquote>