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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5494834" data-attributes="member: 19675">Yep.&nbsp; And just so we're clear, no DC writer has ever implied that he was anything but a normal- albeit rich- kid.With which sentiment I simply can't agree...for a variety of reasons.Wealth is not a super power.&nbsp; Burning some portion of that fortune spending your entire waking life training in various martial and mental disciplines is not a super power.&nbsp; Being able to plan many moves ahead is not a super power.&nbsp; And so forth.What he has at his disposal, he has in extreme abundance, but he has nothing that rises to the level of paranormal, i.e. outside the realms of human possibility.Or, to put it another way, a paragon of humanity is still, ultimately, human.Except he's NOT top of the heap of martial artists in the DC universe.&nbsp; One of the best?&nbsp; Absolutely.&nbsp; The clear number 1?&nbsp; No.Again, I'll refer to the closing issue of the Manhunter series in which, while Batman got bogged down in the crowd of martial arts fighters, Paul Kirk cut right through, criticizing Bat's skills.Within the DC universe, others HAVE reached equivalent levels of competence.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 5494834, member: 19675"] Yep. And just so we're clear, no DC writer has [I]ever[/I] implied that he was anything but a normal- albeit rich- kid. With which sentiment I simply can't agree...for a variety of reasons. Wealth is not a super power. Burning some portion of that fortune spending your entire waking life training in various martial and mental disciplines is not a super power. Being able to plan many moves ahead is not a super power. And so forth. What he has at his disposal, he has in extreme abundance, but he has nothing that rises to the level of paranormal, i.e. outside the realms of human possibility. Or, to put it another way, a paragon of humanity is still, ultimately, human. Except he's NOT top of the heap of martial artists in the DC universe. One of the best? Absolutely. The clear number 1? No. Again, I'll refer to the closing issue of the Manhunter series in which, while Batman got bogged down in the crowd of martial arts fighters, Paul Kirk cut right through, criticizing Bat's skills. Within the DC universe, others HAVE reached equivalent levels of competence. [/QUOTE]

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