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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5495729" data-attributes="member: 18280"><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm    :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" />In OHMSS, Bond marries the girl because he wants to.  That is part of the narrative.  She gets shot by a sniper in what is probably one of the most effective closes in a Bond film.  That is part of the narrative design.IN CR, Bond quits and goes to be with Vesper because he wants to.  That is part of the narrative.  She gets killed by Quantum, and he fails to save her, as part of the narrative design.  So strong is this thread in the narrative that it is the driving force in the next movie.The name of the sequel, "Quantum of Solace", comes from an Ian Fleming short story, where it refers to the minimum comfort needed to be able to go on (in the original story, to go on with a relationship).  It is apt for the movie, where Bond is only to gain a minimum of comfort, allowing him to go on after Vesper's death.I begin to think you either have never seen these movies, or that you fail to understand narrative.  Similarly, in Batman:  Mask of the Phantasm, we see Bruce Wayne have a chance at a normal, happy, life......a chance that is taken away from him.  The Gotham World's Fair is used as a symbol of Bruce Wayne's future:  first a bright, shiny place (which nonetheless has the model the Batmobile is designed from); second as the lair of the Joker; third being blown up and destroyed completely.There is little doubt that in BMotP, Batman loses.  He loses his chance at happiness (twice), he fails to catch the Phantasm, he fails to prevent the mobsters from being murdered, he fails to stop the Joker....all he has at the end is a slight hope of some future where he might attain again some of what he lost.  It is a sad ending, and one of the best.In all of these films, the hero survives, but the hero also loses.  Well, in QoS, Bond might be said to win minimally (in that he gains the satisfaction needed to continue)....everyone he sleeps with is killed, as is his friend.  He has a lot of guilt weighing on his mind.  That is the gist of the narrative.I have had fiction published, and I have been paid for it.  Samples are available on my website.  I have some idea of the meaning of narrative.  RC</blockquote>

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