Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
How is the Wizard vs Warrior Balance Problem Handled in Fantasy Literature?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5498144" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>1) it's not glib to point out I'm using actual rules from rulebooks.</p><p>2) That the DMG says a sergeant is a 1st level fighter and a "veteran": this tells us ranks/level names aren't mechanics; that D&D terminology may be self-contradictory. Again, the same book tells us peasants and townsfolk can be classed as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No...nor is the concept that someone may be a skilled fighter- perhaps as a militia member- and choose not to pursue the adventuring lifestyle. Or that someone may be a skilled fighter without having fought in battle (morale is an entirely different matter. My aforementioned buddy who tried out for the Army Rangers was a skilled combatant when he enlisted- his father was a martial artist.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In Wales of old, it was law that young men took up the bow before age 10. In modern Somalia, there are grizzled 15 year old combat vets with AK-47s leading squads of 12 year olds.</p><p></p><p>In both cases, there are similar pressures: if your life expectancy is about 30, you need to start 'em young to get quality adult soldiers.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Take another look at that section I quoted- they are "special" as in unusual, yes, but not so far as some assert that having class levels equates with being a "Fantasy Hero."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, since the DMG is stating that you can give NPCs class levels as DM's discretion, as needed, there is no mechanical linkage between having class levels and being exceptional.</p><p></p><p>(FWIW, that 2Ed source I cited wasn't a module, it was more like a gazetteer, listing city details, important personalities- like Elminster- and each region's armed forces, down to militias, if any.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 5498144, member: 19675"] 1) it's not glib to point out I'm using actual rules from rulebooks. 2) That the DMG says a sergeant is a 1st level fighter and a "veteran": this tells us ranks/level names aren't mechanics; that D&D terminology may be self-contradictory. Again, the same book tells us peasants and townsfolk can be classed as well. No...nor is the concept that someone may be a skilled fighter- perhaps as a militia member- and choose not to pursue the adventuring lifestyle. Or that someone may be a skilled fighter without having fought in battle (morale is an entirely different matter. My aforementioned buddy who tried out for the Army Rangers was a skilled combatant when he enlisted- his father was a martial artist. In Wales of old, it was law that young men took up the bow before age 10. In modern Somalia, there are grizzled 15 year old combat vets with AK-47s leading squads of 12 year olds. In both cases, there are similar pressures: if your life expectancy is about 30, you need to start 'em young to get quality adult soldiers. Take another look at that section I quoted- they are "special" as in unusual, yes, but not so far as some assert that having class levels equates with being a "Fantasy Hero." Again, since the DMG is stating that you can give NPCs class levels as DM's discretion, as needed, there is no mechanical linkage between having class levels and being exceptional. (FWIW, that 2Ed source I cited wasn't a module, it was more like a gazetteer, listing city details, important personalities- like Elminster- and each region's armed forces, down to militias, if any.) [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
How is the Wizard vs Warrior Balance Problem Handled in Fantasy Literature?
Top