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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5498365" data-attributes="member: 2067">They aren't &quot;fresh off the turnip farm&quot; in the sense that the have better stats and abilities than a turnip farmer. And if they don't, they should. Of course, part of the...er...genre...of martyrs and saints is that they are supposed to be inspiration for all of us Normal People, being Normal People themselves whom a Real God inspired to do Real Miracles. So We Can Be Like Them Maybe If We Are Good And Believe.This is not part of the genre of fantasy heroics, since Batman is not meant to be an inspiration to anyone, he is meant to save them. No one is expected to be Batman or James Bond. They are very clearly entities without equal.But a first level fighter isn't a militia member, they're a fantasy hero, so they need to be better than a militia member.st level wizard PC's are still more skilled than any adept or hedge wizard, since 1st level PC's are fantasy heroes, not just anyone with sufficient intelligence.Not everyone who steals a coin has the ability set of a 1st level rogue. A cleric is not just a theologian or a scholar, they are a miracle-worker, a walking conduit of actual divine magic, from Fantasy Gods. Being a deacon or a scofflaw or a potion-brewer or a militia member is not being a fantasy hero, it is being a Fantasy Person in the Fantasy World. A Gotham city beat cop isn't going to be able to apprehend the Joker. You need Batman for that. Any random fantasy person isn't going to be able to slay the dragon. You need a fantasy hero for that. You need the PC's for that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 5498365, member: 2067"] They aren't "fresh off the turnip farm" in the sense that the have better stats and abilities than a turnip farmer. And if they [I]don't[/I], they [I]should[/I]. Of course, part of the...er...genre...of martyrs and saints is that they are supposed to be inspiration for all of us Normal People, being Normal People themselves whom a Real God inspired to do Real Miracles. So We Can Be Like Them Maybe If We Are Good And Believe. This is not part of the genre of fantasy heroics, since Batman is not meant to be an inspiration to anyone, he is meant to [I]save them[/I]. No one is expected to be Batman or James Bond. They are very clearly entities without equal. But a first level fighter isn't a militia member, they're a fantasy hero, so they need to be better than a militia member. st level wizard PC's are still more skilled than any adept or hedge wizard, since 1st level PC's are fantasy heroes, not just anyone with sufficient intelligence. Not everyone who steals a coin has the ability set of a 1st level rogue. A cleric is not just a theologian or a scholar, they are a miracle-worker, a walking conduit of actual divine magic, from Fantasy Gods. Being a deacon or a scofflaw or a potion-brewer or a militia member is not being a fantasy hero, it is being a Fantasy Person in the Fantasy World. A Gotham city beat cop isn't going to be able to apprehend the Joker. You need Batman for that. Any random fantasy person isn't going to be able to slay the dragon. You need a fantasy hero for that. You need the PC's for that. [/QUOTE]

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