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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 5500692" data-attributes="member: 5834">I'll admit 3.x didn't give the melees types much but insane damage output.Pathfinder changed that dramatically. Now melee-types can do all kinds of crazy stuff.Rogues can do strength damage now. Dispel Magic with their attacks.Fighters are the undisputed master of weapons. They can do crazy stuff llike keep creatures stunned or crit some so viciously as to blind them.Barbarian rage powers make them freaking unstoppable death machines.The monk feels a great deal more like a master of the martial arts. They are better at combat maneuvers. Have more combat style options per additional feats. Their ki pool grants them tangible cool abilities that allow them to operate like a supernatural martial artist.The Paladin is pretty unreal in overall power. An unstoppable holy force that any caster would fear.And the Inquisitor is freakishly strong.Pathfinder made melees a lot more interesting. It clearly shows that the D&D system did not need the kind of completel overhaul it got in 4E to make melee characters more interesting. Pathfinder used the 3.x system to upgrade every melee character and turn them into the types of warriors you read about in literature capable of extraordinary feats of combat prowess no commoner could possibly equal.They did a great job. My players, even the guy who enjoyed 4E, loves Pathfinder. They made melee characters that are fun to design. No longer is it only fun for a caster character to spend hours mulling over his feat and spell build. Now it is fun for a barbarian to mull over his rage power build. Or a fighter to mull over his feat build with tons more options. Or a rogue to mull over his rogue talent build. Pathfinder did what people were asking for in 3.x without scrapping the entire system and destroying the flavor of previous editions of D&D.So if you're looking for melee characters with supernatural type combat abilities, Pathfinder has it in spades.</blockquote>

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