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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 5500702" data-attributes="member: 15538">Unless he is a turnip farmer. Then you are logically incorrect. I don't know about that. I played plenty of fighters who were fighters because they didn't qualify for any other class. Not at 1st level, it isn't. The problem with your argument is that at 1st level, the cleric or the wizard are equally vulnerable to being eaten by dragons, killed by orcs, and so forth. Being a cleric or a wizard is an unusual specialty, but it does not necessary relate to any level of heroism at all. In some fantasy worlds, the majority of priests are clerics, actually. Being a wizard or a cleric is not much different than being a US Marine, a computer hacker, or con artist. These are unusual talents, but those people are not necessarily legendary characters. So, no, in many games 1st level characters are not destined heroes. Some of them are destined to be casualties in the first battle with orcs. Warrior and wizard alike. Wizards are not automatically characters of legend; some of them are chumps who can try to cast a fireball right before an orc puts an arrow in them in scene 1, reel 1.</blockquote>