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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 5502718" data-attributes="member: 15538">And high action, flying swordsmen, mountain-cleaving stuff can be lots of fun... if everyone is on board. You seem to be claiming that each of those sources must map to specific D&D tropes. Obviously, D&D is a pastiche of various sources, and a little something of its own. Don't ask me to defend a point I didn't make. I never claimed Elric was a level N wizard, so don't act like I did. In return, I'll politely not inquire what specific 4e power allow's a fighter's hallowed touch to burn the flesh of the Grendel.I was simply offering examples of a very specific point: that D&D is based heavily on sources where PC magicians are relatively common. The saga of Beowulf is not something on which D&D is heavily based.</blockquote>