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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5504057" data-attributes="member: 19675">Before I turn to those pages- because I do have my DMG on hand- I'll point out that literally just above the quote regarding Henchmen (quoted in particular to point out that NPCs with PC class levels don't get screwed vis a vis their class level) is the paragraphs dealing with general NPC stats:The next paragraph is what I quoted previously regarding henchmen.So, while normal, presumably non-PC classed NPCs aren't getting any 18s, any stat from 6-15 is perfectly possible, even all 15s, before modification.  This is a far cry from other posters' assertions that they had "no stats" or had "all 10s."  Those assertions seem to be derived from HRs or an incomplete reading of the rules.Now, onto the NPC traits charts you mentioned.  They start on p.100.There are no rules here that do away with what was presented on page 11.  What is supplied is a list of adjustments to those rolls by race and by class- the PC classes are listed with minimums, just as for PCs on the characteristic charts in the PHC- or occupation (Laborer, Mercenary, or Merchant/Trader).  With them, you can get plain, ordinary NPCs with stats as high as 18.Sages get their own separate stat generation rules on page 32, designed to ensure that NPCs of that ilk were extremely competent.  In that, they presaged (*ahem*) the introduction of class-specific stat generation rules for all classes by Unearthed Arcana.</blockquote>

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