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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5508707" data-attributes="member: 2067">There's some really interesting and effective ideas upthread by others, though to see how this can be done, you don't even need to see what I or others on this board can come up with. You just need to look at 4e.4e's powers are essentially all spells. A fighter's powers are no different. Martial powers in particular are mostly done with the "martial is not magical" motif in mind. With a few unfortunate exceptions like Come And Get It (which is heavily criticized for it), a fighter's martial spells are competitive with what a wizard's arcane spells can do.Part of that is, of course, that 4e limits what a wizard can do. There's fireball and lightning bolt, but there's not travel teleportation, scrying, instant death, action-granting spells or summons, nothing plot-affecting.I think this is a step in the right direction. For combat abilities, this is pretty much the ideal solution. We could use some calibration, but the principle is sound: warrior abilities and spellcasting abilities are on the same scale of how they can affect the world. If you take it out of context of the powers system, it's clear that there's a lot of places that principle could apply.If you'd like to have this discussion with yourself, you're more than welcome to. If you'd like to have it with me, don't presume that you can read minds.Listen.</blockquote>