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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CuRoi" data-source="post: 5509208" data-attributes="member: 98032">I think I see both sides of the issue here - they do look rather vanilla on reading and from my experience (albeit limited compared to many others here), I know they do play very differently. They all however interact with the game world / story in the same way now and the difference is in how they play on a tactical level. Something got lost in translation IMO that some people really liked and some people really disliked. It was a bigger deal than any one designer could really anticipate a reaction to. If it were possible to honestly discuss what was lost, we might get somewhere, but people get too touchy and irrational about it for whatever reason. At any rate, for the topic at hand - I think it boils down to whether someone's version of "fantasy literature" does indeed support a sorcery element that can be wholly different from the swords element and the story actually benefits from this difference. For others, I think they want the two aspects to be essentially the same thing for comparison sake and they'll work the story around it.</blockquote>