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<blockquote data-quote="triqui" data-source="post: 5519822" data-attributes="member: 57948">Fair point. I fully agree 3e did not even try to get balance. Then I do not know why we are arguing that 3e fighter and 3e wizard aren't balanced at all. We both agree they aren't.&nbsp;If those moments are &quot;jobs for Aquaman&quot;, I disagree they are equally cool. It's like having an impaired charater and your DM making Paraolympic Games every now and then.Ad Hominem fallacy never proves anything at all. Get off your high &quot;I play the game right, you don't, that's why you don't find it so cool as I do&quot; horse. I play with the same DM and players in 4e than in 3e, and that problem did not arise. So maybe the system has something to do with it <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> (EDIT:sure, other problems DID arise. 4e is NOT superior to 3e in every aspect. However, we are talking about Wizard vs Warrior balance in this thread)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="triqui, post: 5519822, member: 57948"] Fair point. I fully agree 3e did not even try to get balance. Then I do not know why we are arguing that 3e fighter and 3e wizard aren't balanced at all. We both agree they aren't. If those moments are "jobs for Aquaman", I disagree they are equally cool. It's like having an impaired charater and your DM making Paraolympic Games every now and then. Ad Hominem fallacy never proves anything at all. Get off your high "I play the game right, you don't, that's why you don't find it so cool as I do" horse. I play with the same DM and players in 4e than in 3e, and that problem did not arise. So [i]maybe[/i] the system has something to do with it ;) (EDIT:sure, other problems DID arise. 4e is NOT superior to 3e in every aspect. However, we are talking about Wizard vs Warrior balance in this thread) [/QUOTE]

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