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<blockquote data-quote="Votan" data-source="post: 5525215" data-attributes="member: 18680">Fair enough.&nbsp; But leading soldiers seems to be related to fighting in a very direct way.&nbsp; In 3E terms, it is odd to model Genghis Khan or Alexander the Great as Fighter/Bard multi-class characters.&nbsp; Okay, neither really exist in a fantasy world . . . but the idea that a soldier might be good at leading armies or squads of mercenaries isn't a huge stretch.&nbsp; It's also a very edition specific concern, go be fair.&nbsp; In AD&amp;D the fighter naturally acquired men at arms who were loyal followers as a class feature.&nbsp; In 4E the leader of men niche is more warlord than Fighter but the skill and feat structure don't handicap the Fighter as much.&nbsp; In war of the spider queen (books based on 3E), the subversives in the Drow city were delighted at how easy it was to dominate senior soldiers (due to the known weak will of fighters).&nbsp; The logical conclusion of this is that soldiers would never be placed in charge of anything - - - which would be a major change in the socio-political structure of many game worlds.&nbsp; Oddly, clerics turn out to be the best class for commanding troops, or maybe a druid or bard.&nbsp; A wizard would be weak at it but would be hard to dominate and could make a critical roll (with Moment of Prescience, perhaps the worst thought out spell in 3E).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Votan, post: 5525215, member: 18680"] Fair enough. But leading soldiers seems to be related to fighting in a very direct way. In 3E terms, it is odd to model Genghis Khan or Alexander the Great as Fighter/Bard multi-class characters. Okay, neither really exist in a fantasy world . . . but the idea that a soldier might be good at leading armies or squads of mercenaries isn't a huge stretch. It's also a very edition specific concern, go be fair. In AD&D the fighter naturally acquired men at arms who were loyal followers as a class feature. In 4E the leader of men niche is more warlord than Fighter but the skill and feat structure don't handicap the Fighter as much. In war of the spider queen (books based on 3E), the subversives in the Drow city were delighted at how easy it was to dominate senior soldiers (due to the known weak will of fighters). The logical conclusion of this is that soldiers would never be placed in charge of anything - - - which would be a major change in the socio-political structure of many game worlds. Oddly, clerics turn out to be the best class for commanding troops, or maybe a druid or bard. A wizard would be weak at it but would be hard to dominate and could make a critical roll (with Moment of Prescience, perhaps the worst thought out spell in 3E). [/QUOTE]

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