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How is the Wizard vs Warrior Balance Problem Handled in Fantasy Literature?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5526600" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Name three. Seriously, name three fantasy characters, or, heck, even with your caveat of historical fiction, characters that can be modeled well using a plain jane 3e fighter.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's interesting to note that every single caster after core is significantly weaker than core casters and significantly more limited in capabilities. I'd point to this as pretty solid evidence that there is something to the idea that 3e casters were a tad overpowered.</p><p></p><p>I mean, the non-caster classes got big power jumps in splats. Yet the caster classes all got turned into things like War Wizards (blasting only), Warlocks (blasting only), and that cleric sorcerer variant whose name escapes me right now - soul forged? Something like that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just to add to this. It's not that fighters must be good leaders. But, it would be nice if they could be good leaders AT ALL. Sure, I can make a likeable fighter if I sacrifice all my skill points into that one thing and burn a feat or two. But, at the same time, I cannot tell a lie to save my life, cannot intimidate anyone and cannot tell if someone is lying to me. Plus I have absolutely no tactical knowledge, no education and eat with my fingers.</p><p></p><p>Sure, if you're happy with a fighter being a guy that swings a lumpy metal thing, then fine. But, that doesn't change the fact that you have one class that is limited to one single schtick - swing lumpy metal thing, while every other class can encompass a large variety of concepts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5526600, member: 22779"] Name three. Seriously, name three fantasy characters, or, heck, even with your caveat of historical fiction, characters that can be modeled well using a plain jane 3e fighter. It's interesting to note that every single caster after core is significantly weaker than core casters and significantly more limited in capabilities. I'd point to this as pretty solid evidence that there is something to the idea that 3e casters were a tad overpowered. I mean, the non-caster classes got big power jumps in splats. Yet the caster classes all got turned into things like War Wizards (blasting only), Warlocks (blasting only), and that cleric sorcerer variant whose name escapes me right now - soul forged? Something like that. Just to add to this. It's not that fighters must be good leaders. But, it would be nice if they could be good leaders AT ALL. Sure, I can make a likeable fighter if I sacrifice all my skill points into that one thing and burn a feat or two. But, at the same time, I cannot tell a lie to save my life, cannot intimidate anyone and cannot tell if someone is lying to me. Plus I have absolutely no tactical knowledge, no education and eat with my fingers. Sure, if you're happy with a fighter being a guy that swings a lumpy metal thing, then fine. But, that doesn't change the fact that you have one class that is limited to one single schtick - swing lumpy metal thing, while every other class can encompass a large variety of concepts. [/QUOTE]
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