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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5529973" data-attributes="member: 87792">You miss the quality of his opposition. Elrond. Gandalf. Glorfindel. Aragorn. The One Ring Itself.  He was enough of a leader to get a gang of literal pirates following him rather than stabbing him in the back. And he was a boatman. This comes to the core problem of the 3.X fighter. They are good at fighting and nothing else. They suck as pirates - no Profession (Shiphandling) or equivalent skill.  You mean other than praying and providing someone else with healing through the medallion of Gird? That's your Lay On Hands, right there. And then if I remember rightly she also manages to resist and see through some cloaking magic when the bad guy tries to escape.  And was offered that chance because she was already demonstrating things that no ordinary fighter ought to be able to do. And throwing off magic that people ought not to be able to.  Immune to fear isn't the same as immune to self-doubt. She fears - but I'm trying to recall a single time she lets that fear master her. Edit: For RavenCrowking and from the <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/fighter.htm" target="_blank">SRD</a>:  The fighter’s class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/climb.htm" target="_blank">Climb</a> (Str), <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/craft.htm" target="_blank">Craft</a> (Int), <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/handleAnimal.htm" target="_blank">Handle Animal</a> (Cha), <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/intimidate.htm" target="_blank">Intimidate</a> (Cha), <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/jump.htm" target="_blank">Jump</a> (Str), <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/ride.htm" target="_blank">Ride</a> (Dex), and <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/swim.htm" target="_blank">Swim</a> (Str).  (The Barbarian at least gets Listen and Survival).Also Hussar's point is that you deal with Giant Spiders with the same tools you deal with any other monsters in their size class.  You don't deal with them by going through at a metagame level and saying "They can't use Web or climb walls."  (See Isle of the Ape).  And you may have spider eaters.  They may be part of the ecosystem.  But you don't need to base almost all your tactics around giant spiders if there's simply one giant spider facing you.  Your analogy fails at the important points.</blockquote>

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