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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5531774" data-attributes="member: 957">And I like that about D20.But the quote I was responding to seemed concerned that Blackbeard was not a master of quite a list of things.&nbsp; So that was my point and we seem to at least somewhat agree on this.I completely agree.Hussar questioned whether someone would sail with the captain.&nbsp; He didn't say &quot;unless he had a good navigator with him&quot;.&nbsp; He challenged the idea that anyone would sail with him unless he personally was a good enough map reader.I agree that this example sucks.&nbsp; I already said I didn't think it did a good job and you agreed.&nbsp; So bothering to point out the details just wastes time.Depends.&nbsp; In a seriously gritty e6 type campaign, the example might even be passable.&nbsp; I certainly would still not do it that way, but maybe.&nbsp; But if you are in a mid level traditional D&amp;D campaign, then yes, I agree with you very much.I buy that also.Again, this is just deception.&nbsp; By design and intent every class is very worthwhile &quot;in a fight&quot;.&nbsp; The fighter concept is about individual martial combat.&nbsp; It works just fine.You can have a very reasonable debate about the balance between the fighter and the barbarian.&nbsp; I'd actually agree with that issue far more readily than the fighter/wizard &quot;issue&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 5531774, member: 957"] And I like that about D20. But the quote I was responding to seemed concerned that Blackbeard was not a master of quite a list of things. So that was my point and we seem to at least somewhat agree on this. I completely agree. Hussar questioned whether someone would sail with the captain. He didn't say "unless he had a good navigator with him". He challenged the idea that anyone would sail with him unless he personally was a good enough map reader. I agree that this example sucks. I already said I didn't think it did a good job and you agreed. So bothering to point out the details just wastes time. Depends. In a seriously gritty e6 type campaign, the example might even be passable. I certainly would still not do it that way, but maybe. But if you are in a mid level traditional D&D campaign, then yes, I agree with you very much. I buy that also. Again, this is just deception. By design and intent every class is very worthwhile "in a fight". The fighter concept is about individual martial combat. It works just fine. You can have a very reasonable debate about the balance between the fighter and the barbarian. I'd actually agree with that issue far more readily than the fighter/wizard "issue". [/QUOTE]

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