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How is the Wizard vs Warrior Balance Problem Handled in Fantasy Literature?
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<blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 5534584" data-attributes="member: 15538"><p>So basically, you have a guy who trades +1 to hit and some extra hit points, for -2 AC and the inability to use most skills. Unless the combat runs long, in which case you also lose the hit points and fall behind in to-hit and damage, plus a further penalty for fatigue. Your Blackbeard sucks. Further, as you have re-iterated several times, I didn't even bother to diversity with combat feats, but instead chose to shore up some skill bonuses because I preferred to do so for conceptual reasons. Your Blackbeard can't even beat my Blackbeard, who is not even built competitively against yours. </p><p></p><p>Unless you choose to actually replace several of Blackbeard's feats with greatsword-centric choices, your Barbarian is generally inferior, and if you choose to do so, you give ground in either ranged combat or skills. And it is because Barbarian is not the best choice for a well-rounded pirate. Even with 3e's serious issues with skills distribution for Fighters. Blackbeard only cares about maxing out one skill: Intimidate. The only other skills he really cares about are Profession (Sailor) and Survival, and only up to the point of being able to beat DCs of 10-15, plus a few ranks here and there to outshine the rubes and to be trained. </p><p></p><p>If skills were really where it's at, his first level should definitely be Rogue. That would definitely help Fighter Blackbeard more than Barbarian Blackbeard, but I still choose not to do it, because the loss in skills is trivial. I'd rather spend a couple of feats shoring up low skill ratings than give up full BAB or having to base my combat effectiveness around rage. </p><p></p><p>Now, if we want to compare greatsword-wielding Power Attackers, the Barbarian becomes competitive, but that is entirely another issue.</p><p></p><p>Blackbeard = Fighter. And no, I did not claim he never fought at all, just that he wasn't in the habit of throwing himself bloodily into melees with little regard for his own safety.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pawsplay, post: 5534584, member: 15538"] So basically, you have a guy who trades +1 to hit and some extra hit points, for -2 AC and the inability to use most skills. Unless the combat runs long, in which case you also lose the hit points and fall behind in to-hit and damage, plus a further penalty for fatigue. Your Blackbeard sucks. Further, as you have re-iterated several times, I didn't even bother to diversity with combat feats, but instead chose to shore up some skill bonuses because I preferred to do so for conceptual reasons. Your Blackbeard can't even beat my Blackbeard, who is not even built competitively against yours. Unless you choose to actually replace several of Blackbeard's feats with greatsword-centric choices, your Barbarian is generally inferior, and if you choose to do so, you give ground in either ranged combat or skills. And it is because Barbarian is not the best choice for a well-rounded pirate. Even with 3e's serious issues with skills distribution for Fighters. Blackbeard only cares about maxing out one skill: Intimidate. The only other skills he really cares about are Profession (Sailor) and Survival, and only up to the point of being able to beat DCs of 10-15, plus a few ranks here and there to outshine the rubes and to be trained. If skills were really where it's at, his first level should definitely be Rogue. That would definitely help Fighter Blackbeard more than Barbarian Blackbeard, but I still choose not to do it, because the loss in skills is trivial. I'd rather spend a couple of feats shoring up low skill ratings than give up full BAB or having to base my combat effectiveness around rage. Now, if we want to compare greatsword-wielding Power Attackers, the Barbarian becomes competitive, but that is entirely another issue. Blackbeard = Fighter. And no, I did not claim he never fought at all, just that he wasn't in the habit of throwing himself bloodily into melees with little regard for his own safety. [/QUOTE]
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