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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stormonu" data-source="post: 5535266" data-attributes="member: 52734">No, the players have as much, if not more resposibility than the designers.  Why are we relying on the designers to make rules against face-dribbling when players should have perfect sense not to do so themselves?Back on the knock example; this isn't only the tool of the wizard.  The rogue can pick the lock, the fighter can bash the door in.  The problem comes in the fact it takes the fighter or the rogue a minute or two to do so.  The wizard does it in a matter of seconds, and without a check of some sort.  Supposably, this was balanced by the fact the wizard would only be doing this maybe once an adventure, whereas the fighter or rogue could employ their door-opening skill at any time.   Somewhere along the way though, people started arguing the wizard was broken because he could things like this any and every time it came up, often forgetting that D&D isn't played as one encounter per day and the wizard whose blown his all his spell allotment on these kind of things is going to get eaten by the grue on the other side of the door.</blockquote>