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<blockquote data-quote="Nemesis Destiny" data-source="post: 5535651" data-attributes="member: 98255">Yeah, I agree with this assessment. That post was pretty nice; it expressed your opinion and your point of view well, and did so without being harsh or &quot;douchey&quot; at all (can we still use that word in the context of this thread?).Like TwoSix, I don't agree on a lot of your points, but they were well articulated (though I don't really get the UFC references, as I haven't watched it since it was in the single digits and low double digits).But I understand where you're coming from. I spent a lot of time playing D&amp;D where the paradigm you describe was the default, and I enjoyed it, for the most part, immensely. I like gonzo magic as much as the next guy, and I don't think that there is really a lack of it in 4e, it just takes a different form (rituals). It's not a solution that everyone will be happy with, and I can respect that PoV, but I like it, and so does my group, so that's good enough for me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I would still probably play any other edition, or PF, or E6, or other games with similar balance. I would probably even DM them. Even 3e, despite what I said in another thread about that. I just wouldn't go past level 12.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nemesis Destiny, post: 5535651, member: 98255"] Yeah, I agree with this assessment. That post was pretty nice; it expressed your opinion and your point of view well, and did so without being harsh or "douchey" at all (can we still use that word in the context of this thread?). Like TwoSix, I don't agree on a lot of your points, but they were well articulated (though I don't really get the UFC references, as I haven't watched it since it was in the single digits and low double digits). But I understand where you're coming from. I spent a lot of time playing D&D where the paradigm you describe was the default, and I enjoyed it, for the most part, immensely. I like gonzo magic as much as the next guy, and I don't think that there is really a lack of it in 4e, it just takes a different form (rituals). It's not a solution that everyone will be happy with, and I can respect that PoV, but I like it, and so does my group, so that's good enough for me. :) I would still probably play any other edition, or PF, or E6, or other games with similar balance. I would probably even DM them. Even 3e, despite what I said in another thread about that. I just wouldn't go past level 12. [/QUOTE]

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