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<blockquote data-quote="NoWayJose" data-source="post: 5536251" data-attributes="member: 84810">+5 or +10 doesn't matter to me in that context (did you catch my edit?)&nbsp;It's not the power of the thing. I never cared about wizards dominating. It's about the magic of the thing.&nbsp;I can't imagine a wizard with access to so much potential would choose such an obscure geeky narrow-minded spell like that.&nbsp;If scaling and balance is such an issue that there is no other way to duplicate a knock spell, then I wouldn't include it all. +x to lockpicking is so fictionally the opposite of magical to me, I feel it ruins immersion and it's not worth it.&nbsp;Instead, just blast the lock with fire like TwoSix suggested. If that doesn't work, then the lock is probably half-ruined and the thief can't pick it anymore. So then the fighter moves in and smashes the lock. If he can take down a 30' tall golem, he can smash a fire-slagged lock too.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="NoWayJose, post: 5536251, member: 84810"] +5 or +10 doesn't matter to me in that context (did you catch my edit?) It's not the power of the thing. I never cared about wizards dominating. It's about the magic of the thing. I can't imagine a wizard with access to so much potential would choose such an obscure geeky narrow-minded spell like that. If scaling and balance is such an issue that there is no other way to duplicate a knock spell, then I wouldn't include it all. +x to lockpicking is so fictionally the opposite of magical to me, I feel it ruins immersion and it's not worth it. Instead, just blast the lock with fire like TwoSix suggested. If that doesn't work, then the lock is probably half-ruined and the thief can't pick it anymore. So then the fighter moves in and smashes the lock. If he can take down a 30' tall golem, he can smash a fire-slagged lock too. [/QUOTE]

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