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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5540101" data-attributes="member: 19675">Which all helps prove my point, Hussar, which was that random encounters were just as hard on noncasters- more of their resources are harder to replenish.&nbsp; The more random encounters, the more likely the party is going to be forced to retreat.Oh yeah- you didn't cover fatigue in your point by point.Hussar, you and I have gone round and round on this many times before: That does not describe my play experience of the last 34 years.&nbsp; Rests are not dictated by when the casters are out of spells, they are gotten when they can be.&nbsp; Many are the times when the party has been advancing when the wizard is using his weapons and the cleric has been moved to point.It's a rare thing, yes- in part because our casters don't simply cast spells to solve problems, so they tend not to run out of spells- but it does happen.If what you're saying were universally true, though, it would NEVER happen.Again, this does not match my play experience at all.&nbsp; Fatigue, ammo, and other factors are as much a concern for our parties as whether the casters are still casting.Or to put it a different way, it's not the unique caster resources that pressure our group to rest, it's all the other stuff.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 5540101, member: 19675"] Which all helps prove my point, Hussar, which was that random encounters were just as hard on noncasters- more of their resources are harder to replenish. The more random encounters, the more likely the party is going to be forced to retreat. Oh yeah- you didn't cover fatigue in your point by point. Hussar, you and I have gone round and round on this many times before: That does not describe my play experience of the last 34 years. Rests are not dictated by when the casters are out of spells, they are gotten when they can be. Many are the times when the party has been advancing when the wizard is using his weapons and the cleric has been moved to point. It's a rare thing, yes- in part because our casters don't simply cast spells to solve problems, so they tend not to run out of spells- but it does happen. If what you're saying were universally true, though, it would NEVER happen. Again, this does not match my play experience at all. Fatigue, ammo, and other factors are as much a concern for our parties as whether the casters are still casting. Or to put it a different way, it's not the unique caster resources that pressure our group to rest, it's all the other stuff. [/QUOTE]

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