I gave up eight or nine years ago on trying to get someone to see sense if they don't seem to be making sense, not just here but everywhere. The effort required on my part is never worth the rare rewards when someone goes, "Wait... I think I see your point now." Saves a lot of frustration and time. As such, I guess my limit is probably about 10 posts unless it's actually a post about content creation and the participants are brainstorming and implementing ideas. Sadly, most of the people here who loved to actually collaborate on making things or sharing the things that they had made don't post here any longer.