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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8894311" data-attributes="member: 18">I definitely do not agree lol.I don't for one second think WotC's main goal with 1.1 OGL was just to &quot;get people to just stop publishing OGL stuff&quot; any more than I think the GSL was an attempt to &quot;stop people making 3PP material for 4E&quot;. In both cases, that was not the goal. The goal was to get 3PPs to work with them under more favourable terms for WotC whilst not doing anything that wasn't compatible with WotC's latest game. The OGL 1.1 in particular was basically designed to force major 3PPs to negotiate special contracts directly with WotC (you can see this in the OGL 2.0, assuming that leak is correct, because they make that even more explicit), whilst forcing other/newer 3PPs to either do the same if they got big or to never grow beyond a certain stunted size.That seems to have been a miserable failure, and pretending it was never a goal is just bizarre to me. That's like a cat falling off a wall and looking at you like &quot;I meant to do that!&quot;. We all saw you!Scaring people who didn't want in on the OGL 1.1 into also not using the OGL 1.0a was a secondary and less-ideal goal.If Paizo was just trying to do the ORC thing, and wasn't going to defend 1.0a in court, then at least you could argue the secondary goal was achieved. But it clearly hasn't been, and now the biggest other company in the industry (tiny compared to WotC, but more than big enough to cause a problem) is offering it's shield to the other 3PPs, and specifically offering to protect OGL 1.0a so they can continue publishing under that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8894311, member: 18"] I definitely do not agree lol. I don't for one second think WotC's main goal with 1.1 OGL was just to "get people to just stop publishing OGL stuff" any more than I think the GSL was an attempt to "stop people making 3PP material for 4E". In both cases, that was not the goal. The goal was to get 3PPs to work with them under more favourable terms for WotC whilst not doing anything that wasn't compatible with WotC's latest game. The OGL 1.1 in particular was basically designed to force major 3PPs to negotiate special contracts directly with WotC (you can see this in the OGL 2.0, assuming that leak is correct, because they make that even more explicit), whilst forcing other/newer 3PPs to either do the same if they got big or to never grow beyond a certain stunted size. That seems to have been a miserable failure, and pretending it was never a goal is just bizarre to me. That's like a cat falling off a wall and looking at you like "I meant to do that!". We all saw you! Scaring people who didn't want in on the OGL 1.1 into also not using the OGL 1.0a was a secondary and less-ideal goal. If Paizo was just trying to do the ORC thing, and wasn't going to defend 1.0a in court, then at least you could argue the secondary goal was achieved. But it clearly hasn't been, and now the biggest other company in the industry (tiny compared to WotC, but more than big enough to cause a problem) is offering it's shield to the other 3PPs, and specifically offering to protect OGL 1.0a so they can continue publishing under that. [/QUOTE]

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