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<blockquote data-quote="Gort" data-source="post: 5074024" data-attributes="member: 11239">It's just an example to show that if people are finding that monsters take a while to kill (note the neverending &quot;grind&quot; accusations 4e seems to attract) it may well not be that the monsters have too many hitpoints, it's that you're not doing enough damage to them.And as you we both agree, the example I posted wasn't some extreme pun-pun-esque monstrosity requiring exploitation of obscure rules and an extremely specific character type. It was more or less just some guy taking fairly obvious items and feats to make his character do more damage.I guess I just over-react these days, after you've seen a lot of posts about &quot;grind&quot; and &quot;monsters take a long time to kill&quot; from people with parties of three defense-focused defenders, a leader and a controller. It's not that hard, people!PS: Byronic, Warlocks are terrible and shouldn't enter any real discussion about anything.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gort, post: 5074024, member: 11239"] It's just an example to show that if people are finding that monsters take a while to kill (note the neverending "grind" accusations 4e seems to attract) it may well not be that the monsters have too many hitpoints, it's that [i]you're not doing enough damage to them[/i]. And as you we both agree, the example I posted wasn't some extreme pun-pun-esque monstrosity requiring exploitation of obscure rules and an extremely specific character type. It was more or less just some guy taking fairly obvious items and feats to make his character do more damage. I guess I just over-react these days, after you've seen a lot of posts about "grind" and "monsters take a long time to kill" from people with parties of three defense-focused defenders, a leader and a controller. It's not that hard, people! PS: Byronic, Warlocks are terrible and shouldn't enter any real discussion about anything. [/QUOTE]

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