D&D 5E How many fans want a 5E Warlord?

[Imaro]

It didn't; but your question shows that you haven't followed the whole thread.

This line of discussion started with talk of a non-magical game; no healing spells, no healing potions...no magic.

In a no-magic game, without the presence of a class with mundane healing - healing they can use on other characters, and not just temporary hit points (which can't heal a character at 0 HP), the Healer Feat is essential.

A Warlord Class helps facilitate a non-magical campaign.

I addressed this in my post above, even without having read the entire thread or did you ignore that part of my post? If the DM wants a non-standard game then he needs to change the rules to facilitate it (i.e. make sure the Healer feat is available and/or, depending on his own desires give the feat out for free). The core game shouldn't be required to facilitate the numerous non-standard games various DM's can come up with... it should facilitate play of D&D in it's standard format, which includes magic.

EDIT: 5e gives you an easily usable, modular piece that facilitates a non-magic campaign, the Healer Feat... now how it's used to facilitate such is entirely up to the DM (Costs a feat, every class gains it for free, some classes get it for free, some races can trad out a racial ability for it... and so on...) but it's there.

 

[El Mahdi]

In other words trying to draw any type of concrete conclusion from this poll is pointless...

Welcome to ENWorld Polls!

Polls here are at best, a rough estimate or highlight a general trend. With even the best formatted polls still involving a self-selecting group, their results are all suspect.

Usually, they're simply entertainment; not to be taken too seriously.

And Thank You for highlighting the absurdity of those getting all worked up by the nature of, or just the mere existence of, this poll...

 

[Imaro]

Welcome to ENWorld Polls!

Polls here are at best, a rough estimate or highlight a general trend. With even the best formatted polls still involving a self-selecting group, their results are all suspect.

Usually, they're simply entertainment; not to be taken too seriously.

And Thank You for highlighting the absurdity of those getting all worked up by the nature of, or just the mere existence of, this poll...

Eh... some polls are more valuable/interesting/useful than others... even on ENWorld... just saying.

 

[El Mahdi]

The core game shouldn't be required to facilitate the numerous non-standard games various DM's can come up with... it should facilitate play of D&D in it's standard format, which includes magic.

Says you. Fortunately, you are not the lead designer of D&D.

Whether you like it or not, we are going to pursue an official Warlord. If that bothers you to the point of trying to stop people from pursuing it, that says more about you than those that want a Warlord...

 

[El Mahdi]

Eh... some polls are more valuable/interesting/useful than others... even on ENWorld... just saying.

Agreed. Of course though, that's not what you were "just saying" in the post I quoted...

 

[El Mahdi]

In other words trying to draw any type of concrete conclusion from this poll is pointless...

Maybe - Maybe Not.

But it is serving the purpose it was intended for.

 

[Imaro]

Says you. Fortunately, you are not the lead designer of D&D.

Whether you like it or not, we are going to pursue an official Warlord. If that bothers you to the point of trying to stop people from pursuing it, that says more about you than those that want a Warlord...

Lol, I'm not trying to stop anyone from doing anything... and I think the fact that it's not in the 5e corebooks... well that kinda means the designers and developers didn't feel it was necessary either. Sure it could appear in a splat or whatever but it's still not core at that point.

Edit: Oh, and I guess the fact that you're getting so bent out of shape around opinions that don't necessarily conform to your own says something about you as well... But hey, you keep fighting the good fight...

 

[Imaro]

Maybe - Maybe Not.

But it is serving the purpose it was intended for.

What was that again?

 

[El Mahdi]

I think the fact that it's not in the 5e corebooks... well that kinda means the designers and developers didn't feel it was necessary either. Sure it could appear in a splat or whatever but it's still not core at that point.

Duh! If the designers had included it, there'd be no need for us to pursue it...

Not to mention, what does any of that have to do with anything?

Are you trying to say that the designers opinions are so etched in stone they can't possibly change?

Or are you just falling into the illogical assumption that because they didn't feel it was right for initial inclusion, means they feel it's perpetually not right for inclusion?

Pack it up, Guys! Imaro says it's unnecessary and futile!



That argument (or observation) is about as logical as "That's the way we've always done it..."

 

[El Mahdi]

What was that again?