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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gargoyle" data-source="post: 76680" data-attributes="member: 529">(Edit: Couldn't beat chatdemon's post with my slow typing, and repeated some of his thoughts...  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )I also agree with Darklance, though I'm not sure that PrC's should be less than 5 levels.  I'm basically of the opinion that the class concept should dictate the number of levels.A class that is a limited concept or is very specialized might warrant less than 10 levels.  These classes have the advantage of allowing PCs to master the class while still having a significant number of levels in a core class.  The FR Archmage is a good example of a 5 level class.  What kind of archmage isn't a high level wizard?  Even if you allow more than 20 levels or use the Epic level rules, five level classes allow you to have mostly core class levels.  As for the argument that anything less than 10 levels isn't prestigious, I think gaining 5 levels is quite prestigious...particularly at higher levels.For classes where the character should have the option of staying with the class all the way to 20th level, more than 10 levels is warranted.  James Wyatt's void disciple in Oriental adventures was designed with 13 levels for that reason.   He didn't feel like the void disciple should have to change classes after reaching the 10th level of the class.  The disadvantage of this approach is that the PC has to earn the class early and stick with it to master it, but that's the nature of the class concept.As far as prestige classes with less than 5 levels, I've designed such classes, but then discarded them.  They just didn't seem worth taking by playtesters (or worth the time spent designing them), and the abilities gained were better expressed with two or three feats or with a template.  Anywhere from 5 to 15 levels seems to be the correct range.  I'm interested in what the Epic Level prestige classes will look like.</blockquote>

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