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<blockquote data-quote="wayne62682" data-source="post: 4411322" data-attributes="member: 40455">The campaign I just joined used the new Standard Array, but the other players are new to D&amp;D so that might factor in.While I would use the point buy, my only issue with it is that there's a so-called &quot;Optimal Arrray&quot; floating around, which is I think 16 14 14 12 10 8, or some variation thereof, which everyone and their mother seems to assume/advocate using to create characters, at least over on the WotC boards.&nbsp; You know, honestly I've had a lot of fun with just the Standard Array.&nbsp; IMO it's enough to create an interesting character without the feel of min-maxing, but you're also going to be able to create a character who is good at what they do as long as you give your role and &quot;build&quot; (using the general sense, not the specific CharOp version) some thought beforehand.I would not ever go back to rolling dice, nor play in a game which did so.&nbsp; I despise any sort of randomness in character generation for reasons that I don't wish to go into because it would derail the thread <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />NOTE: I'm considering the Standard Array to be different than &quot;22 point buy&quot; because you aren't able to modify the scores.&nbsp; So, in effect, I do use the 22 point buy, but technically speaking I don't.&nbsp; If that makes any sense.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wayne62682, post: 4411322, member: 40455"] The campaign I just joined used the new Standard Array, but the other players are new to D&D so that might factor in. While I would use the point buy, my only issue with it is that there's a so-called "Optimal Arrray" floating around, which is I think 16 14 14 12 10 8, or some variation thereof, which everyone and their mother seems to assume/advocate using to create characters, at least over on the WotC boards. You know, honestly I've had a lot of fun with just the Standard Array. IMO it's enough to create an interesting character without the feel of min-maxing, but you're also going to be able to create a character who is good at what they do as long as you give your role and "build" (using the general sense, not the specific CharOp version) some thought beforehand. I would not ever go back to rolling dice, nor play in a game which did so. I despise any sort of randomness in character generation for reasons that I don't wish to go into because it would derail the thread ;) NOTE: I'm considering the Standard Array to be different than "22 point buy" because you aren't able to modify the scores. So, in effect, I do use the 22 point buy, but technically speaking I don't. If that makes any sense. [/QUOTE]

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