How 'medium' is mithral full plate?

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I'm making a duskblade and was going to take the Battlecaster feat so I could cast while wearing full plate armor. Could I save the feat and just buy mithral full plate instead?

Most mithral armors are one category lighter than normal for purposes of movement and other limitations. Heavy armors are treated as medium, and medium armors are treated as light, but light armors are still treated as light.

I'll have profficiency in light, medium, and heavy armors and (at higher level) the ability to avoid spell failure while wearing 'medium' armor. Will mithral heavy armor count as medium with regards to this? (I'd certainly rather spend the gold than a feat :) ).
 

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Yes it is treated as medium armor.

From the FAQ:

Is a character proficient with light armor, such as a rogue, considered to be proficient with mithral breastplate? What about a character proficient with medium armor, such as a barbarian—is he considered proficient with mithral full plate armor?

The description of mithral on page 284 of the Dungeon Master’s Guide is less precise than it could be in defining how it interacts with armor proficiency rules. The simplest answer—and the one that the Sage expects most players and DMs use—is that mithral armor is treated as one category lighter for all purposes, including proficiency. This isn’t exactly what the Dungeon Master’s Guide says, but it’s a reasonable interpretation of the intent of the rule (and it’s supported by a number of precedents, including the descriptions of various specific mithral armors described on page 220 of the Dungeon Master’s Guide and a variety of NPC stat blocks).

Thus, a ranger or rogue could wear a mithral breastplate without suffering a nonproficiency penalty (since it’s treated as light armor), and each could use any ability dependent on wearing light or no armor (such as evasion or the ranger’s combat style). A barbarian could wear mithral full plate armor without suffering a nonproficiency penalty (since it’s treated as medium armor), and he could use any ability dependent on wearing medium or lighter armor (such as fast movement).


The same would be true of any other special material that uses the same or similar language as mithral (such as darkleaf, on page 120 of the EBERRON Campaign Setting).
 


Ki Ryn said:
I'm making a duskblade and was going to take the Battlecaster feat so I could cast while wearing full plate armor. Could I save the feat and just buy mithral full plate instead?



I'll have profficiency in light, medium, and heavy armors and (at higher level) the ability to avoid spell failure while wearing 'medium' armor. Will mithral heavy armor count as medium with regards to this? (I'd certainly rather spend the gold than a feat :) ).

Yes, it is medium. I currently have a duskblade who has this. I did a dip into armored savant which is a fighter replacement level which further reduces it to light armor from Dragon 355. This is for the multi-classing that I have planned which includes some levels in scout.
 

While I disagree with the FAQ (again), I think that whether you can use abilities like Battlecaster is exactly the sort of 'other limitations' the mithral text is talking about.

So, yes.


glass.
 


This is one case where my preferred interpretation clashes with official word.

In my campaigns, I insist that you be proficient in an armor's "true" category, even if you're wearing a lighter version. Thus, a character can get all the benefits of medium armor by wearing mithral full plate--but he still has to be proficient with heavy armor.

It just makes more sense to me--the difficulties of armor are not all weight-based--and feels more mechanically balanced.

But I acknowledge that the official rules don't support my interpretation. :\
 


Mouseferatu said:
In my campaigns, I insist that you be proficient in an armor's "true" category, even if you're wearing a lighter version. Thus, a character can get all the benefits of medium armor by wearing mithral full plate--but he still has to be proficient with heavy armor.
I completely agree. More, I was speaking with one of the designers a couple GenCons ago -- either Monte Cook or Jonathan Tweet, can't remember -- and I was told the above was the intent. But it was ambiguously phrased, and, well ... so much for that.

(As an unrelated aside, whoever-it-was also told me that he'd brought the spiked chain into the game, and considered it a delicious piece of cheese. He also opined that the greatsword was the single best weapon in the game, spiked chain notwithstanding.)
 

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