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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6901700" data-attributes="member: 996">I used that sort of method back in my 1e AD&amp;D campaign.&nbsp; It's OK as far as it goes, but sucks some of the fun/drama out of it.&nbsp; Later I adapted some battlesystem rules, with the party acting as a unit.&nbsp; Neither was ever that satisfying...Minions also didn't take damage from a 'miss' (and all attacks had attack rolls rather than saves), so to really get the full effect, rather than assigning them different hps (or hps at all), just rule that any hit or failed save kills them (or takes them out of the fight, or routes them - whatever).&nbsp; Not a great thing, actually.&nbsp; If you keep minionization a secret, you don't get any time savings by skipping damage rolls, for instance.&nbsp; And, it can be quite frustrating for players to 'waste' resources on minions.&nbsp; At the same time, 5e doesn't work well with too much information leaking to the player side of the screen.&nbsp;&nbsp; At minimum, they should be able to figure out which are which, somehow, even if it's just subtle differences in how you describe them that's it's up to the players to clue into...&nbsp; ...Of course, it could also be a time for PCs better able to assess enemies to shine.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6901700, member: 996"] I used that sort of method back in my 1e AD&D campaign. It's OK as far as it goes, but sucks some of the fun/drama out of it. Later I adapted some battlesystem rules, with the party acting as a unit. Neither was ever that satisfying... Minions also didn't take damage from a 'miss' (and all attacks had attack rolls rather than saves), so to really get the full effect, rather than assigning them different hps (or hps at all), just rule that any hit or failed save kills them (or takes them out of the fight, or routes them - whatever). Not a great thing, actually. If you keep minionization a secret, you don't get any time savings by skipping damage rolls, for instance. And, it can be quite frustrating for players to 'waste' resources on minions. At the same time, 5e doesn't work well with too much information leaking to the player side of the screen. At minimum, they should be able to figure out which are which, somehow, even if it's just subtle differences in how you describe them that's it's up to the players to clue into... ...Of course, it could also be a time for PCs better able to assess enemies to shine. [/QUOTE]

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