How much time to create a construct?

[Adamantine Addict]

Hi,

if you have the craft construct feat it takes one day per 1 000 GP to enchant the construct.

But how much time takes the creation prior to that? Do I really use the Craft Skill rules??? It would take ages!

For Example:
For an IRON GOLEM this would mean: 800 000 SP and DC 20 Craft (armorsmithing or weaponsmithing). The fictious character has 15 ranks in one of those skill. Estimating he would roll a "10" in every week he crafts it. (25x20=500) it would take 1 600 days... It would be more than 4 years!!! This can't be the way to calculate it, right?

Can anyone help me to solve this puzzle, please?

Thanks in advance!

 

[kitcik]

That seems extreme, although I am not familiar with the crafting rules.

One thought once you do have a good answer - buy say 4 sets of +10 sculpting tools and hire 4 schmucks to take 10's on it - it will go 4x faster.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

80,000gp is the out-of-pocket expense to the character to create the golem; it is not used in the calculation of how long it'd take to make. Similarly, you base how long it takes to make a longsword on its 15gp total price, not the 5gp of materials it'd cost its creator to make it.

As for the specific question, "An iron golem’s body is sculpted from 5,000 pounds of pure iron, smelted with rare tinctures and admixtures costing at least 10,000 gp."

This fits with the math on the creation cost: 150,000 gp total price, 80,000 gp cost to create, works out to 10,000 gp of "base item cost" and 140,000 gp of "magic item cost."

[Magic item cost / 2 = 70k, 70k + 10k = 80k cost to create; compare with a longsword +1, which has a total price of 2,315 gp, and a cost to create of 1,315 gp, which is a MW longsword (315gp) plus half the magic item cost (2,000gp / 2)]

So, in this case, you'd have to make your checks against a DC of 20, and the total progress you'd need to make is 100,000 sp, rather than the 800,000 sp you initially estimated. Assuming you could reliably hit DC 25, you'd make 500 sp of progress each week, and it'd take you 200 weeks - a little under 4 years - to make the golem's body. If, instead, you could reliably hit DC 30 (get some magical tools, hire some assistants, etc.), then you could up the DC by 10 to speed things up, and make the golem's body in about two years, or about half the time. If you could hit DC 40, then you could up the difficulty twice, and get it done in about 14 months.

Or, you know, cast a bunch of fabricate spells, and get it done in a couple weeks, at most.

 

[Magesmiley]

There's a rule in the Craft skill description that lets you raise the DC in 10 point increments to speed up the progress. Get yourself an item that boosts your skill too. A +15 item and raising the DC by 20 would still allow you to take 10 and cut the time in half. Which is still a long time, but it is an iron golem we're talking about.

 

[Adamantine Addict]

Ah! Ok thanks. I think fabricate is the answer to fasten things up. On the other hand it seems pretty mighty, if I got the spell right. You can form a "untreated" iron golem with one round of casting (estimating 1-ft. cube of iron weights about 450 Pound).

Afterwards you'll "only" need to enchant it for 150 days...