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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zimri" data-source="post: 4353664" data-attributes="member: 15991">Assuming my car is in drivable condition: when we arrive at my mechanics home we take the car to get coffee, there is a highway between his house and the coffee shop. If there is anything he needs to know before the drive I or my wife tell him (it's pulling, it clunks over 70kph whatever) then we go to his garage and he looks it over now that he has a feel for (or sound for) how the car is acting up. After the repairs we usually go for food.I say all that to say this, maybe we should all game with custserve, or at the very least describe what came up during a game that caused the issue. If it didn't come up during a game (and really I doubt infinite oregano, bag of rats, or CoD not killing a minion are anything more than intellectual exercizes) Then use the rules you are asking about to pait a plausible game scenario.</blockquote>