How to Increase a Reflex Save

Hellefire · Nov 30, 2006

Ring of evasion can be handy. Don't think I've seen a ring of improved evasion though

. And, of course, it depends on what you need the saves against.

Aaron

Victim · Nov 30, 2006

You could also just accept a poor Ref save and use your cleric elemental protections to migitate most of the effects of failure. It's not quite the same, but if you're a PrC'd cleric, then it might be best just to give up on your Ref save in particular. Universal save boosting effects would still be a good idea though.

Divine Agility adds a huge bonus to Dex, but it doesn't last very long.

Mass Conviction and Recitation are both good spells in general, since they can affect a whole group of characters. You'd be adding +8 to your saves with the combination, plus the effects on other characters AND the plus AC, att. That should help you out quite a bit, with your clerical energy wards making up any shortfall against the most common Ref save attacks.

frankthedm · Nov 30, 2006

KarinsDad said:
I have a PC with a Cloak of Resistance and Gauntlets of Dexterity already, but the Reflex Save is still pretty low.

That is the intent. Everyone except monk has a bad save. You fail Vs. reflex saves, just like you are supposed to.

A Quickened Resist Energy Mass{spell compendium] would be a decent idea to have prepped if it is allowed.

KarinsDad · Nov 30, 2006

frankthedm said:
That is the intent. Everyone except monk has a bad save. You fail Vs. reflex saves, just like you are supposed to.

Actually, it is not my intent.

There is a 20 difference between the PC's Reflex and Will saves (14 vs. 34). The intent is to make that closer to 10 (24 vs. 34).

Patryn of Elvenshae · Nov 30, 2006

Carry a tower shield.

KarinsDad · Nov 30, 2006

Patryn of Elvenshae said:
Carry a tower shield.

You're a big help.

Not.

shilsen · Nov 30, 2006

KarinsDad said:
Actually, it is not my intent.

Which is good. Because disappointment builds character

There is a 20 difference between the PC's Reflex and Will saves (14 vs. 34). The intent is to make that closer to 10 (24 vs. 34).

24 for a character with a +6 base save and in all likelihood not a high Dex is a little hard to pull off. Divine Agility (CDiv) would give you a +12 base Ref save and +4 enchancement bonus to Dex.