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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9467176" data-attributes="member: 7030563">Well according to Treantmonk it does.Ok then what assumptions are you using? The math is still simple.Hunter's Mark spell works the same and it is the same in terms of bonus action consumption. Treantmonk mentions in his new video on Rangers from two weeks ago that Hunter's Mark &quot;is going to use bonus actions.&quot;You were not arguing here on this thread that it is easier for a Ranger to use Hunter's Mark effectively in the new rules (it is), you were arguing that Hunter's Mark does not regularly use a bonus action.Players still have to use their bonus action for Hunter's Mark A LOT to get consistent damage from it.&nbsp; That may not be the case in your game, but it is the case in most.&nbsp; If I pick up a random game to DM on the roll20 forum this weekend and it has a player with HM or Hex in it, it will almost certainly be the case in that game.Since we are talking about the new rules, the 2024 PHB was released to the general public a little over week ago, a month and a half ago it came out on early release to people at Gen Con then later on DNDB and FLGS.&nbsp;&nbsp; You claim it does not happen in your games, how many game sessions have you played with a Ranger since the 2024 rules came out? I agree with this, but it is a low resource option that is going to gobble up your bonus action ...... just like Treantmonk and Pack Tactics and DNDShorts say.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9467176, member: 7030563"] Well according to Treantmonk it does. Ok then what assumptions are you using? The math is still simple. Hunter's Mark spell works the same and it is the same in terms of bonus action consumption. Treantmonk mentions in his new video on Rangers from two weeks ago that Hunter's Mark "[I]is going to use bonus actions."[/I] You were not arguing here on this thread that it is easier for a Ranger to use Hunter's Mark effectively in the new rules (it is), you were arguing that Hunter's Mark does not regularly use a bonus action. Players still have to use their bonus action for Hunter's Mark A LOT to get consistent damage from it. That may not be the case in your game, but it is the case in most. If I pick up a random game to DM on the roll20 forum this weekend and it has a player with HM or Hex in it, it will almost certainly be the case in that game. Since we are talking about the new rules, the 2024 PHB was released to the general public a little over week ago, a month and a half ago it came out on early release to people at Gen Con then later on DNDB and FLGS. You claim it does not happen in your games, how many game sessions have you played with a Ranger since the 2024 rules came out? I agree with this, but it is a low resource option that is going to gobble up your bonus action ...... just like Treantmonk and Pack Tactics and DNDShorts say. [/QUOTE]

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