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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Slaved" data-source="post: 3347952" data-attributes="member: 43358">The "so" part would be that his statement was only correct in a very limited circumstance. A circumstance that most of the time would have many other options besides tumble to accomplish the same goal. Such as simply walking around the guy outside of his threat area.If you make it more into a game situation where it will be important the DC is likely to be higher. He did not try to put it into a game situation nor did he give the large number of limitations involved, he simply brushed them away in order to make his claims seem more justified. Hopefully I fixed that in some little way.</blockquote>